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It is interesting, Web, because in my experience in the Muslim world, women are generally much safer wandering around cities of the Muslim world (Cairo, Jakarta), day or night, than in the average American city. I don't think it has much to do with cutting off appendages, because Sharia law isn't in force in either Egypt or Indonesia. But I think that greatly decreased alcohol consumption plays a role. Also, it has been argued to me that official tolerance of red light districts helps out, too, so that the safety of women is not as true in a country like Saudi Arabia, where there are huge numbers of foreign male laborers, and no legal or quasi-legal outlet for the sexual energy.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"Pretty solid hiring criteria. Just don't brag about it on the radio."
I didn't say I had a problem with it. I think it's ironic that his bosses kept him on the air after comments about "Mexican women with mustaches" being responsible for importing Swine Flu, stating his desire to kill Muslims, and advocating for the impeachment, imprisonment and execution of the last three American presidents for treason, but finally decided he had crossed the line when bragged about banging some bimbos as far back as 20 years ago.
I doubt his bosses liked having their wives up there asses because of his comments.
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Here's a laugh for you all. I mentioned Glenn Becks upcoming departure to my mother & her response?..... "I think he's going to run for President!"
OMG!
My response....."I'll take that bet" - not going to happen (embarrassed)
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Webstergrovesalum wrote:
Sorry I missed the author of that quote! But Holy Cow! Was there seriously some wack-job bragging about hiring female interns based on looks so he could sleep with them?! Ok - so maybe some of the Muslims aren't far off when they cut off or cut out the offending appendage! Out with the tongue & off with his......uh...other offending item
There was a series of skits on the old SNL with Steve Martin called "Theodoric of York." In each episode, Theodoric (Martin) would hold a different title. In the "Theodoric of York; Medeival Judge," a character played by Belushi is brought before him for trial:
"Let's see, you were convicted of theft, and we cut off your hand. Then you were convicted of lying, and we cut out your tongue. Now, you've been convicted of rape ... hmmmm ..."
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"I think he's going to run for President!"
Can you imagine a debate between Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin?
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"I think he's going to run for President!"
Can you imagine a debate between Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin?
That would just be a mutual admiration society visit.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"I think he's going to run for President!"
Can you imagine a debate between Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin?
Palin: and I am for ending Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
Beck: I am for making people pay back all they have received from those programs.
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Webstergrovesalum wrote:
artie_fufkin wrote:
"I think he's going to run for President!"
Can you imagine a debate between Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin?That would just be a mutual admiration society visit.
It might start out that way, but Palin is so ultra-sensitive, Beck will eventually say something to which she'll take offense, and they'll end up being mortal enemies.
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"Palin: and I am for ending Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
Beck: I am for making people pay back all they have received from those programs."
Gingrich: ... with interest.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"Palin: and I am for ending Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
Beck: I am for making people pay back all they have received from those programs."
Gingrich: ... with interest.
Recall that not too many years ago Gingerich made a public advocacy TV spot with Nancy Pelosi about the danger of global warming. Gingerich is just pure politician with a finger to the wind.
Palin and Beck (and Michele Bachman, and almost all of the Tea Party, for that matter) are bona fide ideological nut jobs.
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"Gingerich is just pure politician with a finger to the wind."
His fingers have been in worse places. I take back my earlier comment that I hope Palin wins the Republican nomination. Now I hope it's Newt. Just so I can hear Obama say something like this at the debate: "Mr. Speaker, when you presented your wife with divorce papers while she was in her hospital bed stricken with cancer, how many hours had it been since you had sex with your secretary?"
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"Gingerich is just pure politician with a finger to the wind."
His fingers have been in worse places. I take back my earlier comment that I hope Palin wins the Republican nomination. Now I hope it's Newt. Just so I can hear Obama say something like this at the debate: "Mr. Speaker, when you presented your wife with divorce papers while she was in her hospital bed stricken with cancer, how many hours had it been since you had sex with your secretary?"
C'mon. You really think someone is going to type that on Barry's teleprompter?
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forsberg_us wrote:
artie_fufkin wrote:
"Gingerich is just pure politician with a finger to the wind."
His fingers have been in worse places. I take back my earlier comment that I hope Palin wins the Republican nomination. Now I hope it's Newt. Just so I can hear Obama say something like this at the debate: "Mr. Speaker, when you presented your wife with divorce papers while she was in her hospital bed stricken with cancer, how many hours had it been since you had sex with your secretary?"C'mon. You really think someone is going to type that on Barry's teleprompter?
Let's see ... for whom shall I vote .. the guy who has to read from the teleprompter or the guy who's been wed three times but is against same-sex unions because he believes in the sanctity of marriage?
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artie_fufkin wrote:
forsberg_us wrote:
artie_fufkin wrote:
"Gingerich is just pure politician with a finger to the wind."
His fingers have been in worse places. I take back my earlier comment that I hope Palin wins the Republican nomination. Now I hope it's Newt. Just so I can hear Obama say something like this at the debate: "Mr. Speaker, when you presented your wife with divorce papers while she was in her hospital bed stricken with cancer, how many hours had it been since you had sex with your secretary?"C'mon. You really think someone is going to type that on Barry's teleprompter?
Let's see ... for whom shall I vote .. the guy who has to read from the teleprompter or the guy who's been wed three times but is against same-sex unions because he believes in the sanctity of marriage?
Oooh, ooooh. I know the answer to this one....
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forsberg_us wrote:
artie_fufkin wrote:
forsberg_us wrote:
C'mon. You really think someone is going to type that on Barry's teleprompter?Let's see ... for whom shall I vote .. the guy who has to read from the teleprompter or the guy who's been wed three times but is against same-sex unions because he believes in the sanctity of marriage?
Oooh, ooooh. I know the answer to this one....
LOL! Frankly, I think they're all scumbags!
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I'm seriously fed up with all politicians. My daughter works for HUD & is about to be furloughed with no serious savings to support her house payment etc. I truly think they whole bunch stinks because there should have been a budget last fall! (furious)
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Webstergrovesalum wrote:
I'm seriously fed up with all politicians. My daughter works for HUD & is about to be furloughed with no serious savings to support her house payment etc. I truly think they whole bunch stinks because there should have been a budget last fall! (furious)
web, this has become the fallback position of people who trend conservative but who like to consider themselves nonpartisan. the one sole issue holding things up is funding of planned parenthood. just as with the gridlock in wisconsin, this has little-to-nothing to do with fiscal responsibility and everything to do with delivering the social agenda of the far right.
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Webstergrovesalum wrote:
"tongue" that's clever. but there are serious issues pushing our government toward a shutdown. with all seriousness, and without even a shred of exaggeration, my wife would be dead, my children motherless, as of June 2009, without legal abortion and/or we would be bankrupt from medical bills without Medicaid. This is fact. I had no fulltime employment after returning from Singapore. She had an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured, and would have been dead if I had delayed even one hour in getting her to the hospital. This is all documentable. And this is what the Tea Party conservatives are saying needs to be cut, and needs to be cut so badly that soldiers should go unpaid in a game of brinkmanship to get Planned Parenthood defunded. They are sick, sick, sick. And it's time we opened Overton's Window and ask ourselves to what extent we should allow some uneducated ignorant hillbillies, from uneducated ignorant hillbilly states to set the policy for the greatest nation in the history of the Earth. And furthermore, we need to ask if the main reason we have not yet opened Overton's Window this far is because we know that those uneducated ignorant hillbillies have more reactionary pride than they have brains and they are most likely to grab their guns and come a'settlin' scores just for having raised the issue?!!!
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Here you go:
"Boehner, a fellow Ohioan, will be able to pass the funding deal through the House without votes from Democrats.
Boehner would need 218 Republican votes to pass the House majority threshold, which he said earlier this week was his goal. But given the concessions in the final deal, that may be impossible.
"218 Republicans? I don't think so," Jordan said."
There, it is said plain and clear. The GOP, after decades of pandering to them, is too scared of the fucking uneducated ignorant hillbillies, from the ignorant hillbilly states to stand up to them. And they NEED the democrats to keep the country from from falling off the rails on a crazy train.
Web, Fors, and the rest of the people who feel they are nonpartisan conservatives, it's time to stand up and tell your elected representatives that they are NOT hostage to the lunatic fringe of Glenn Beck conservatism. Your party is fucking HOSTAGE to bat-shit guano crazy policy!!!
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don.rob11 wrote:
I'm from a hillbilly state ; screw you .
Yes, I get it. It's horribly offensive to phrase it that way, but movement conservatism has been doing just that for 20+ years, almost without response, until now the political dialog of our country has moved way further to the right than the average Reaganite could have imagined, and it has dragged policy with it. Bashing liberalism, liberal policies, such as Planned Parenthood, and bastions of liberalism, such as San Francisco has been pervasive on talk radio and Fox News for two decades now. And one result is that horrifically un-American policies, like denying basic rights to Muslims because they are Muslim, or equating the political opposition with terrorism is tolerated in today's main stream media. Maybe Glenn Beck has been a political genius afterall, and he has pushed open the Overton Window, such that congress is now voting on things that were politically unthikable in the Reagan days, like denying collective bargaining rights. Maybe, in order stay a middle course, the country needs to push back heavily against the grass roots of movement conservatism and its political bastions in the Bible belt.
The Overton Window
At any given moment, the “window†includes a range of policies considered to be politically acceptable in the current climate of public opinion, which a politician can recommend without being considered too “extreme†or outside the mainstream to gain or keep public office. Overton arranged the spectrum on a vertical axis of “more free†and “less free†in regards to government intervention. When the window moves or expands, ideas can accordingly become more or less politically acceptable. The degrees of acceptance[3] of public ideas can be described roughly as:
Unthinkable
Radical
Acceptable
Sensible
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The Overton Window is a means of visualizing which ideas define that range of acceptance by where they fall in it. Proponents of policies outside the window seek to persuade or educate the public so that the window either “moves†or expands to encompass them. Opponents of current policies, or similar ones currently within the window, likewise seek to convince people that these should be considered unacceptable.
Other formulations of the process created after Overton's death add the concept of moving the window, such as deliberately promoting ideas even less acceptable than the previous "outer fringe" ideas, with the intention of making the current fringe ideas acceptable by comparison
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Yikes. I wish there was an insightful or clever response to this, but there isn't. I'll just say I'm glad your wife survived.
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I didnt think this was an abortion issue. Just a government funded abortion issue. I understand that a party would not support the government funding something they are agaisnt like Planned Parenthood. Your issue with almost becoming bankrupt if Planned Parenthood has more to do with the state of health insurance in this country then it does abortion. Correct me if I am wrong.