Max wrote:

speaking of closers who go after pitchers, if the cards promoted motte, that's what they'd have.  i like his style.

Remember they tried him last year and he failed. I think I read they still think he's not ready psychologically. I still think he probably needs to develop another pitch - even Mariano Rivera has a second pitch he can throw for a strike. But he and Miller are the two guys out there who aren't afraid to challenge hitters with their best pitch.
Here's Sanchez. Let's see how this goes.

Every fastball but one was between 96-94.

artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

TTTIB lost 3-1 tonight.

So Reds' fans should stop asking when playoff tickets go on sale?

The regular season is just a formality.

windwalker wrote:

Ummmm... are we watching the rollout of our new closer? Is it just me, or has nobody touched Eduardo Sanchez since his callup?

Hard not to get excited, isn't it? His WHIP is 0.40. Not his ERA. His WHIP. He doesn't have an ERA yet.

Four-way tie for first place.

windwalker wrote:

Ummmm... are we watching the rollout of our new closer? Is it just me, or has nobody touched Eduardo Sanchez since his callup?

I had to miss the two innings Sanchez pitched tonight to deal with fussy kids who won't properly eat their meals.  But . . . yeah, he looks very impressive.  Boggs got the job done, but he also laid out some meat pitches.

Yeah, I guess you did.

I just realized that if you watch an mlb.com archived game while you have mlb gameday open, gameday automatically syncs to the archived game.

I think if you review it carefully you will see:

1st pitch to Ramos was over the heart of the plate.
4th pitch to Ramos hung a bit but got the job done.
2nd pitch to Morse probably wasn't as good as Boggs would have liked.
4th pitch to Morse, that got tapped to Pujols, could have and should have been crushed.  Guarantee Morse is in his hotel room replaying that pitch and mentally kicking the crap out of himself.
1st pitch to Nix was over the heart of the plate.

Funny that your gameday doesn't show that, 'cause mine does.

Last edited by Max (4/20/2011 11:26 pm)

Max wrote:

I just realized that if you watch an mlb.com archived game while you have mlb gameday open, gameday automatically syncs to the archived game.

I think if you review it carefully you will see:

1st pitch to Ramos was over the heart of the plate.
4th pitch to Ramos hung a bit but got the job done.
2nd pitch to Morse probably wasn't as good as Boggs would have liked.
4th pitch to Morse, that got tapped to Pujols, could have and should have been crushed.  Guarantee Morse is in his hotel room replaying that pitch and mentally kicking the crap out of himself.
1st pitch to Nix was over the heart of the plate.

Funny that your gameday doesn't show that, 'cause mine does.

My Gameday actually shows where the pitch was hit, not where it was hit on the monitor.

"Who's Mitch Williams?"

He's the oboe player for a band called the New Originals.
You're kidding, right?

artie_fufkin wrote:

"My Gameday actually shows where the pitch was hit, not where it was hit on the monitor."

Just a sugggestion, but both of you may want to reconsider the evaluation of a pitching performance on the basis of what some geek who may think a baseball is inflated enters into a computer program.

PitchF/X isn't entered in by a person.

That sounded less cyborg-y.

Last edited by tkihshbt (4/21/2011 9:59 am)

alz wrote:

Max, it depends on the scouting report on the batters in question.

This has been going on for years, Alz.  TK has some kind of weird passive-aggressive persecution complex when it comes to me.  You may have noticed a steady stream of comments about how stupid and ill-informed I am about baseball, and after I support my positions he takes these as personal attacks and has even gone so far as to ask me to excuse myself from posting here.  I must confess, that back in the days when we were on Yahoo, and there were at least 15-20 regular posters, i didn't even have a clear idea who Tk was until he started claiming that I was out to get him. 

So, instead of him just saying, "yeah, I guess you're right.  at a bare minimum boggs got away with that pitch to morse." it will go on and on like this for days as TK does TK things.

anyway, you're right, of course, that scouting is important.  Nevetheless, what I wrote was that boggs laid out some meat pitches, and those two first pitches were meat pitches.  And batters will begin approaching him differently if boggs thinks he can get away with grooving first pitch fastballs over the heart of the plate.  likewise, it may well be that the scouting report on morse says that he doesn't like fastballs that fly straight as a whistle over the heart of the plate, and that's why the fourth pitch to him, which could have been crushed by any decent mlb hitter, turned into a lame groundball to Pujols.   Nevertheless, it was a meat pitch.  The second pitch to morse and the fourth to ramos were also hittable by a good batter.

Go back and read what started this, which was all in reference to Sanchez as closer, and I concluded much like you, that Boggs got the job done: "Boggs got the job done, but he also laid out some meat pitches."  apparently TK took objection with the second part and thus begins one of these typical arguments, where he seemingly has little or no defense, like when he tried to claim that BA has nothing to do with OPS, but that go on forever anyway for some reason.  That's OK, though, I remember what it was like to be young and to have difficulty admitting when I was wrong.

Last edited by Max (4/21/2011 10:42 am)

This seems rather stupid, but I've got nothing else to do on a Thursday. so I'll point out that in four paragraphs, Max claims I don't know as much as I think I do while also failing to understand what I mean when I say "Gameday", how he once said that batting average is calculated into OPS and how I've got something out for him.

That's a trifecta of ignorance right there.