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This probably belongs in the music thread, but what's the consensus on Taylor Swift? I watched a special where she performed with Def Leppard and some of the tunes were kind of, I don't know, catchy. The lyrics were kind of typical teenage lovelorn angst stuff, but I was kind of impressed a high school girl can write her own material.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
This probably belongs in the music thread, but what's the consensus on Taylor Swift?
Fors has some opinions, I recall, but my thought is that you could much, much worse than have a kid that likes Taylor Swift. She plays Beatle-esque stuff, like a very light weight Sheryl Crow. But compared to the crap out there, I can stand to have Taylor Swift playing in the house and in the car.
Not clear how she'd look in a meat dress, however. We'll have to wait just a bit more . . . until she breaks up with a boyfriend with whom she's been sexting semi-naked pictures! :-)
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artie_fufkin wrote:
This probably belongs in the music thread, but what's the consensus on Taylor Swift? I watched a special where she performed with Def Leppard and some of the tunes were kind of, I don't know, catchy. The lyrics were kind of typical teenage lovelorn angst stuff, but I was kind of impressed a high school girl can write her own material.
Some of her stuff is to over the top teenage girly but the special with Def Leppard was awesome, IMO. She is pretty talented if you ask me for a teenager. The show you are talking about is called crossroads on CMT. I find it pretty interesting to see country guys do songs from the 70s and 80s. Jason Aldean took a gay Brian Adams song and made it really good.
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Yeah, we saw Taylor Swift last year with the kids. I've heard pretty much all of her music because Madison plays it over and over and over again. For the most part her music has been as AP described it--"teenage girly." Of course, that's probably to be expected since she was a teenaged girl when she wrote it.
I'm not sure I really consider her music to be "country," but if my choices are having my kids listen to Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Ke$ha or Brittany Spears, I'll gladly choose Taylor Swift.
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Glad you're paying attention Fors. I have a niece that posted something on facebook - she was lip-singing to a song I can't imagine any 15 year old should ever hear - & my sister & I worried ourselves sick trying to figure out how to get our half-brother to see her page! I eventually had my oldest son speak to him personally, since they were in the same town at the time. I don't know if anyone ever saw her video but someone sure should be paying attention to what she listens to! They're in STL & I'm in Colorado so I don't have much input unfortunately (shocked)
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"The show you are talking about is called crossroads on CMT."
I thought it was kind of funny when the interviewer asked Joe Elliott and Phil Collen what they thought about Swift selling four million albums last year. The Def Leppard guys took it in stride, but they sort of had that look like Spinal Tap when they're gathered around the radio and the disc jockey says they're in the "'Where are they now?' file."
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Webstergrovesalum wrote:
Glad you're paying attention Fors. I have a niece that posted something on facebook - she was lip-singing to a song I can't imagine any 15 year old should ever hear - & my sister & I worried ourselves sick trying to figure out how to get our half-brother to see her page! I eventually had my oldest son speak to him personally, since they were in the same town at the time. I don't know if anyone ever saw her video but someone sure should be paying attention to what she listens to! They're in STL & I'm in Colorado so I don't have much input unfortunately (shocked)
It's not that difficult. I'm the only one with the I-tunes password. If they want a song on their I-pod, they have to come to dad first.
I'm fairly flexible about what they can listen to, but I figure it's a pretty good idea to at least keep the lines of communication open on the topic.
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forsberg_us wrote:
I'm fairly flexible about what they can listen to, but I figure it's a pretty good idea to at least keep the lines of communication open on the topic.
I'm so technologically-ignorant I originally ceded control of the ITunes store to my wife. Then I came home one day and the 10-year-old was listening to the Rage Against The Machine song that has the chorus "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" about 157 times in a row.
Boy: "But dad, it's a great song."
Me: "It's an awesome song. But there's a censored version that Mom should have down-loaded for you."
Wife: "What's 'Rage Against The Machine?'"
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"The show you are talking about is called crossroads on CMT."
I thought it was kind of funny when the interviewer asked Joe Elliott and Phil Collen what they thought about Swift selling four million albums last year. The Def Leppard guys took it in stride, but they sort of had that look like Spinal Tap when they're gathered around the radio and the disc jockey says they're in the "'Where are they now?' file."
Def Leppard must be willing to do anyhting for money if they will get on stage and let Swift sing their songs.
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"Def Leppard must be willing to do anyhting for money if they will get on stage and let Swift sing their songs."
Their popularity isn't waning. Their audience is becoming more selective.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
forsberg_us wrote:
I'm fairly flexible about what they can listen to, but I figure it's a pretty good idea to at least keep the lines of communication open on the topic.
I'm so technologically-ignorant I originally ceded control of the ITunes store to my wife. Then I came home one day and the 10-year-old was listening to the Rage Against The Machine song that has the chorus "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" about 157 times in a row.
This is another one for which you almost want to make an exception:
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The kid in the restaurant with his parents used to crack me up.
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artie_fufkin wrote:
"Def Leppard must be willing to do anyhting for money if they will get on stage and let Swift sing their songs."
Their popularity isn't waning. Their audience is becoming more selective.
I like them and dont understand when people say a band has sold out to become more popular. It is retarded. After all the reason people play is to heard. Playing stuff that more people like is logical. Just because somebody likes their music before other people did doesnt make that person cooler no matter how they try and word it.
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"Just because somebody likes their music before other people did doesnt make that person cooler no matter how they try and word it."
I respectfully disagree, AP. Def Leppard's first two albums were phenomenal, and then they decided to write songs for heartsick teenage girls. I wouldn't have liked them if their first album was Pyromania, and I would have hated them if their first album was Hysteria. But the time they got around to doing a bad Nine Inch Nails imitation, I was done with them.
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It's pretty amazing that Taylor Swift sold four million albums because no one goes platinum anymore. Let this soak in: 11 years ago, Garth Brooks sold two million copies of that album he did as Chris Gaines. Two million! That's probably about 300,000 by today's standards.
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"Let this soak in: 11 years ago, Garth Brooks sold two million copies of that album he did as Chris Gaines. Two million!"
I think Metallica sold two million copies of the black album in the first hour it went on sale.
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tkihshbt wrote:
It's pretty amazing that Taylor Swift sold four million albums because no one goes platinum anymore. Let this soak in: 11 years ago, Garth Brooks sold two million copies of that album he did as Chris Gaines. Two million! That's probably about 300,000 by today's standards.
That four million is an old figure. By the end of 2009, Swift was over 10 million in album sales. 20 million in paid downloads.
It'll be interesting to see how her career tracks as she gets older. At some point in time she's going to have to stop singing about teen angst, and when she does I wonder if her fan base will continue to listen.
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"It'll be interesting to see how her career tracks as she gets older. At some point in time she's going to have to stop singing about teen angst, and when she does I wonder if her fan base will continue to listen."
When you become that successful, it's kind of hard to connect with fans when you're writing songs about the lousy room service at the Ritz.
The alternative is becoming Rod Stewart - eschewing any thoughts of originality and just releasing your version of what was popular six months ago. I'm eagerly waiting for Rod's next CD, which will probably be rap versions of country songs.
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forsberg_us wrote:
That four million is an old figure. By the end of 2009, Swift was over 10 million in album sales. 20 million in paid downloads.
It'll be interesting to see how her career tracks as she gets older. At some point in time she's going to have to stop singing about teen angst, and when she does I wonder if her fan base will continue to listen.
That's pretty great. And she does it on talent rather than charisma or controversy, because she's damn boring.