Zach was asking me about this today. I told him he'd still better count on helping me with the lawn tomorrow and until the Mayan apocolypse in 2012.

Well, I wasn't woken up this morning by a guy with a goatee poking a pitchfork into my chest, so I guess the predictions of fiery doom and eternal peril for unrepentant sinners like me were wrong. Better luck next time.

artie_fufkin wrote:

Well, I wasn't woken up this morning by a guy with a goatee poking a pitchfork into my chest, so I guess the predictions of fiery doom and eternal peril for unrepentant sinners like me were wrong. Better luck next time.

Mother in law out of town?

artie_fufkin wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

artie_fufkin wrote:

Well, I wasn't woken up this morning by a guy with a goatee poking a pitchfork into my chest, so I guess the predictions of fiery doom and eternal peril for unrepentant sinners like me were wrong. Better luck next time.

Mother in law out of town?

Oh, I can't wait until those two start dating.

I thought that was how KC's ex-wife was spawned.

tkihshbt wrote:

You guys still working on the lawn?

Artie is not going to have to scoop snow.

A California preacher who foretold of the world's end only to see the appointed day pass with no extraordinarily cataclysmic event has revised his apocalyptic prophecy, saying he was off by five months and the Earth actually will be obliterated on Oct. 21.

A California preacher who foretold of the world's end only to see the appointed day pass with no extraordinarily cataclysmic event has revised his apocalyptic prophecy, saying he was off by five months and the Earth actually will be obliterated on Oct. 21.

Forgive this, I'm not a Bible-thumper, but I do know the book. I grew up in the Church, and I know what's in there. So this guy .... ugh. The reverend, even by the standards of religion, yes the same religion he's trying to stake out prophecies on, is a nutjob. I'm not going to preach, push this view as truth. I will preface this with the proclimation that this is the general belief of the Christian religions (regardless of doctrine), and based on the Revelations to the apostle John in the final book of the Bible. Should you believe the Christian tenets, then these would follow as your beliefs.

This isn't my translation of events, this is the written word in the book of Revelations. There's a lot that can be read into, i.e. what various end-time signs mean what. The moon will turn red, happens every day as it's rising off the horizon for example.

There are other various references about Israel becoming a nation (1940's) post WWII, and that generation not dissappearing before the rapture occurs. This was taken to mean 40 years (rough math of "a generation"). This failed in the 80s, new math has been applied numerous times on this. It could simply mean that the last person alive during the moment Israel became a nation won't be dead when the rapture occurs. We don't know, that's a read reference. It could also be that Israel becoming a nation wasn't the indicator that we thought. Maybe it's the final borders of Israel, which took place long after. Then you're back to the 40 years debate on that timeline. Just on this alone, and this is a pretty concrete sign, you can be all over the board here.

One thing is clear however.

The rapture will occur, then Armaggedon will occur after enough time since the Rapture that the world is nothing but a sinful, immoral mess.

Then, at some point the entire world will be at Israel's door and about to destroy it in a war (another of those statements that can be read in any variety of ways. Hitler's campaign against the Jews qualified for this, for example).

At which time, God will return, press a global reset button with fire (since he promised Noah he would never again destroy the earth with a flood). He will then conduct Judgement, a viewing of each persons entire life and thoughts, and give them entry to heaven or damn them to hell based on whether they took Jesus' blood as their saving grace. I know this is all preachy, I apologize. There's no real way to explain the problem I have with this Charlatan other then to explain what I know about the subject he's exploiting.

Someone asked him to give up his belongings to a more needy case, since he was going to be raptured. He declined. that should tell you everything you need to know about the man.

alz wrote:

Someone asked him to give up his belongings to a more needy case, since he was going to be raptured. He declined. that should tell you everything you need to know about the man.

Several years ago, I made the statement that if any American wants to help mainstream Muslims in their fight against the radicals who use Islam for their twisted political and personal ends, their most effective action would be to denounce the extremists among us who use Christianity for their twisted political and personal motives.  This is the kind of thing I was walking about.  Well done.

For my own part, I think that Jesus correctly observed that the laws of the Jews were far too complicated for people to follow, and he simplified the laws of Moses down to just two: respect God, and treat other people as you yourself would wish to be treated.  This is the uncompromisable part of Christianity, in my view.