Nothing that happens in a court room surpises me anymore, but I'd guess the defense is going to have a tough time selling this one.

Never heard of Casey Anthony.

artie_fufkin wrote:

She's accused of drowning her toddler and trying to hide it from the cops for a month. A Lifetime movie is in the works.

The drowning part was a suprise and claimed to be an accident.  The ladder was left down on the pool.  I dont think they knew what the cause of death was.  Another weird thing about the case is that a meter-maid saw the remains in the wooded area they were found in and called it in several times over the course of 2 or 3 months yet nobody found them.  It took him showing the police where they were to come up with them.  I dont know what happend but I knew she was guilty and now I want to hear more about Casey's dad.  Their is something he isnt saying.  He is an excop so maybe that is why he wouldnt give the defense a straight answer but it seemed to me like he was hiding something.  I think he knew the kid was dead and played along with Casey untill his wife caught on.   

Another thing I didnt know was that Casey and the girl lived with her parents.  How do you not notice a kid not being around the house for a month?  Oh, and Casey's brother took a test to prove the kid wasnt his.  This family has to be fucked up.

"Casey's brother took a test to prove the kid wasnt his."

Since the case is taking place in Central Florida, I think that's implied.

according the the wikipedia article:

June 16: Casey and Caylee move out of Casey's parent's house
June 21: she writes a diary entry, "I have no regrets, just a bit worried. I just want for everything to work out okay. I completely trust my own judgment & know that I made the right decision. I just hope that the end justifies the means. I just want to know what the future will hold for me. I guess I will soon see -- This is the happiest that I have been in a very long time. I hope that my happiness will continue to grow -- I've made new friends that I really like. I've surrounded myself with good people -- I am finally happy. Let's just hope that it doesn't change."  After having googled searched phrases including: "neck breaking," "how to make chloroform," and "death".
July 15: Caylee reported missing by her grandmother, after receiving numerous blow-offs from her daughter.
July 16: Casey arrested for making false statements
etc.
May 24, 2011: Defense attorney opening statement claims Caylee died June 16 of accidental drowning.

Sorry, but I cannot connect the dots from a daughter's accidental drowning, to a month-long mystery as to the daughter's whereabouts and everything else the mother did. 

One thing that is very sad is that Caylee would have died when she was about 2 years and 10 months, and having some experience in these matters, I can say that there are few things on Earth more life affirming than a little baby daughter who is about 2.5 to 3.5 years old.

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Last edited by Max (5/25/2011 3:22 am)

My reading made me think that Casey moved out the day before the child died. Then stonewalled every opportunity for them to see their grandbaby.

Truth? No idea, that's just what I read.

If she's guilty of this, I hope she receives the death penalty. As bad as murder is, sometimes I can understand how it occurs. A fight with someone turns bad, you come home to catch your wife sharing your bed with someone, a robbery gone awry.... I'm not saying it's right, but I can understand how it falls out. This? I hope to God this little girl accidentally drowned in the pool and for some stupid reason they tried to cover it all up. If not, there is no execution method brutal enough to make me feel justice was done.

Sadly reading what I have, which in no means makes me a legal expert (that's all on fors), I don't see the jump to cover up an accidental death. I don't care how many times she was used as a cock-cushion at the family reunions. Given the google searches that it was said they found on her computer "How to make Chloroform" and "Effecient neck breaking" being a few of the topics, and her journal entries listing out her happiness and sure she made the best choice for her happiness, though there are second thoughts.... WHAT THE FUCK.

My instinct says she's guilty as sin, and if so I would bring back China's "Slow Slicing" execution method to punish her.

Actually I saw one story that indicated she moved out on June 9.  In any event, she was out of the house before the girl disappeared.  I think the last time the grandmother saw the little girl was on a nursing home visit to see another relative.  The mom had already moved out by that point.

APRTW wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

Actually I saw one story that indicated she moved out on June 9.  In any event, she was out of the house before the girl disappeared.  I think the last time the grandmother saw the little girl was on a nursing home visit to see another relative.  The mom had already moved out by that point.

I see that now.  I believe there defense will be that the father made her move out on the 16th after the drowning.  The defense claim that he found the body in the pool.  Again, I am not saying I believe it but in my mind they went from having no chance to having an real shot.

to having a shot, anyway.  you are probably correct about that.  but look at the cost.  did you see the other person they smeared?  that meter reader who found the body!  what a suspicious guy, finding the body like that . . . maybe he MOVED it???

this defense tactic was tried, and failed (although it came close to working), before for those despicable vermin, Lyle and Erik Menendez.  I was living in Beverly Hills at the time, and the murder happened a few blocks from my apartment, so it was big news where I lived.  After murdering their parents and getting caught, they made up a self-defense story that involved years of sexual and psychological abuse by their parents.  It was very ugly and it did not keep their asses out of jail for what will probably be the rest of their lives. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_and_Erik_Menendez

I meant to comment on this earlier, got busy and forgot. While the opening statement was sensational and loaded with shock value, it created one major problem--the only person who can substantiate any of it is Casey Anthony--and no attorney in his right mind can put her on the stand. She can explain the partying, she can't explain the lies and she can't explain the forensic evidence. In the end, the prosecution will stand up, point out that the defense failed to deliver on any of its opening promises and failed to controvert any of the prosecution's eveidence.

You hit on the only way the prosecution loses this case--the make the case so complex they lose the jury. If the jury gets confused, that suggests reasonable doubt. They need to keep it simple and wrap it up. ,

Fors, back to your point about the shock value of the opening statement and Casey being the only one to validate it.  I believe you are correct but it seems that the defense has to have something up there sleeve.  They knew it was going to be a two month long trial and the shock of opening satements would wear off by day three.  I have to wonder what the defense has to bring to the table.  Somebody has to validate these claims or they were pointless to bring up.  Either defense is stupid or there is something major yet to come.  For it to hold an weight it would have to be the dad, mom or brother to make the claims.  I still swear the father is lieing about something.  The lifetime movie twist would be that he is the father of his daughters kid and covered it up to keep that fact hidden.

Reading a bit more on the testimonials.... Brother says that Casey had no emotion at all when she told him the baby was missing. Casey piled on lie after lie after lie to the police. Casey never called 911 to report the kiddo missing, not ever. Why not? Well because the nanny kidnapped her, so I could handle that. The nanny that doesn't exist, who watched the kid while I worked a job I didn't really have.

...... slow down. The amount of lies told to this point in official statements to police alone are enough to put this bitch behind bars for quite some time... I don't know the sentencing details but what is the going rate for 125 counts of false official statement.....

Does all of this mean she killed her baby? Not necessarily, but with the journal entries, search history on the computer, defensive and evasive answers/stance with investigators, downright lies being told to police on official statements..... I believe she killed her baby, and if the jury finds her guilty, I hope they give her a 10 year sentence in general population and then execute her publicly.... This case just steams my ass to even read about. What a f**king b**ch!

If anyone has been paying close attention to the trial you are seeing the concern I had for the states case come to light.  So far some of the defenses highlights are pictures of Caylee opening the sliding glass door leading to the pool and cimbing the pool ladder pretty much by herself.  The defenses experts witnesses have cast doubt on the science used to determine that the smell in the truck was a dead body.  Casey's brother comfirmed that the family hid the pregnancy from him.  The bigget shocker might hae been when Casey's mom admitted she was the one for searched fo cloriform on their home computer.  To me his has hung jury written all over it.  I am trying to take into account that the jury knows little about the case other then what the state and defense has told them.  Their opinion isnt effected by the media.