He's got a name, AP. I think it's Hank.

For some reason, Greene was ranked between seventh and eighth in all of the drafts. I got suckered in on one of my teams.

Tempting, but no. I'll stick with the guy who gets me 11 points every week.

I'm going to rue the quarterback component of the Favre and Gore for Rivers and Jackson deal for the rest of the season. Fors suckered me in with a line about how his son likes Stephen Jackson. I'll bet the whole thing is a ruse. He probably doesn't even have kids.

APRTW wrote:

I have never done a trade in fantasy sports.

I've found there are three species of fantasy traders: the fleecers, the my-team-only guys and the fair dealers.
The fleecers are pretty obvious. They'll offer you Justin Fargas for Adrian Peterson and hope you're clueless or comatose. The variation on this is a package deal where they'll offer you three mediocre players for one good player. I had Pujols on a baseball roster one year and the same guy offered me about a dozen variations of the same 3-for-1 trade that involved only players on his bench. Those guys are easy to ignore.
The my-team-only guys try to be a little fairer but don't take the trade partner's roster into consideration. It's fine, for instance, to offer me Ryan Howard for Hanley Ramirez, but if I've already got Pujols at first base, Adam Dunn as my utility player, no shortstop on my bench, and I'm already first in home runs, it's not a good trade for me.
The fair dealers will look at the trade partner's roster and propose a reasonably even trade that doesn't require the trade partner to scour the waiver wire for Humberto Quintero.

artie_fufkin wrote:

I'm going to rue the quarterback component of the Favre and Gore for Rivers and Jackson deal for the rest of the season. Fors suckered me in with a line about how his son likes Stephen Jackson. I'll bet the whole thing is a ruse. He probably doesn't even have kids.

Now that you mention it, there never has been a paternity test to confirm anything.

Maybe I'll suggest that when I go home tonight.  I'm sure that will set the mood for an evening of romance.

Dont some league have a rule that allows any trade to be vetoed if the other teams owners vote it down?

APRTW wrote:

Dont some league have a rule that allows any trade to be vetoed if the other teams owners vote it down?

When I first started playing, fantasy was the Wild West compared to what it is now. Collusion was almost expected. My first year of fantasy baseball, which I think was 1993, a guy who was hopelessly out of the race because all his good pitchers got hurt traded Juan Gonzalez, Ken Griffey and Frank Thomas to his buddy for Rafael Belliard. It was a league with guys with whom I worked at the time, and of the half-dozen guys I still see regularly, you randomly say the name "Rafael Belliard" and you'll get a reaction. Of course, we were playing for money and that put a different dynamic on the thing.
A trick that was popular in public leagues where you don't know anyone is to just put your whole team on waivers if you're in last place with a few weeks left in the season. It's the equivalent of flipping the bird on your way out the door.
Yahoo has taken steps to remedy some of this chicanery like league consensus for trades, trade deadlines and a prohibition on dropping elite players. If you look at your roster, you'll see a red circle with a line through it next to your best players, meaning that player is on the "can't cut" list.
As to Fors' question, I'm usually a proponent of a free market society when it comes to fantasy trades. Stupidity is one thing, but it looks like this mail room guy is just being a dick. I'd veto the trade in the interests of maintaining the competitive balance of the league. The guy who thought he was getting Jones-Drew and Davis is undoubtedly going to complain. That's when you tell him you're perfectly willing to hand over the commissioner's reins and the stipend that goes with it to him next season.

My guess is that the dickhead mailroom guy wont get an invite next year.

I think out of everyone I work with there is me another guy playing fantasy sports.

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tkihshbt wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

APRTW wrote:

My guess is that the dickhead mailroom guy wont get an invite next year.

That won't be an issue.  With a firm this size, we have plenty of interest in fantasy football.  If you leave the firm, you leave the league.

We actually have 2 different firm leagues and we use a form of relegation to keep things interesting.  The bottom 4 teams from the primary league are dropped to the secondary league and the top 4 teams from the secondary league move up to replace them.  This year we have a 12 team league and a 10 team league.

That's pretty awesome.

Yeah, especially since there's a bunch of lawyers involved. You'd think before too long someone would have sued someone over what brand of potato chips were offered at the draft ("Your honor, there was clearly an insinuation Original Lays would be present, and there was only half a can of Pringles ... sour cream and onion, no less.") and the whole thing would fall on top of itself.
Catering issues aside, that is a pretty awesome setup. I can't imagine having anything close to that where I work. The only thing we agree on is someone else ought to be the next person who gets laid off. Oh, and we all hate the guy who missed six months when he strained a hamstring getting out of his bathtub, came back to work for a week and then took vacation until August.

artie_fufkin wrote:

tkihshbt wrote:

forsberg_us wrote:

That won't be an issue.  With a firm this size, we have plenty of interest in fantasy football.  If you leave the firm, you leave the league.

We actually have 2 different firm leagues and we use a form of relegation to keep things interesting.  The bottom 4 teams from the primary league are dropped to the secondary league and the top 4 teams from the secondary league move up to replace them.  This year we have a 12 team league and a 10 team league.

That's pretty awesome.

Yeah, especially since there's a bunch of lawyers involved. You'd think before too long someone would have sued someone over what brand of potato chips were offered at the draft ("Your honor, there was clearly an insinuation Original Lays would be present, and there was only half a can of Pringles ... sour cream and onion, no less.") and the whole thing would fall on top of itself.
Catering issues aside, that is a pretty awesome setup. I can't imagine having anything close to that where I work. The only thing we agree on is someone else ought to be the next person who gets laid off. Oh, and we all hate the guy who missed six months when he strained a hamstring getting out of his bathtub, came back to work for a week and then took vacation until August.

The catering issue pretty much takes care of itself.  There's a Hooters within walking distance from the office and they offer 50 free wings to Fantasy Football drafts (we go for the wings, of course  (nerdy) (nerdy) (nerdy))

Even though Zach Miller is killing my fantasy team, the Raiders almost look like a football team today.